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[Photo 14]
Kimata: It’s true in relation to the work we put out. and also in how you treat those around you, it’s like you’re very attuned to them. You’d never say something that has no tact.
Kawashiri: I talk with Syoya pretty often. Like when we’re feeling conflicted or lost.
Kimata: I’ll reach out to Ren-kun, and when I talk to him I’ll be like, “Ah, yeah, as expected, you’d think this way”, and I feel very satisfied that I’m not the only person who thinks in that particular way.
[Photo 15]
Kawashiri: Our roles within the group are also pretty similar. When the opinions (within the group) are split, we’ll be the ones bringing everyone together.
Kimata: We’ll enter the fray and be like, you’ve got a good point, and he’s also got a good point.
Kawashiri: For me, I do that because I’m seen as a relative adult, so I can calmly get close to them and let them know. But for Syoya, there’s many members who are close to him in age, so I think he’s pretty good at telling them these frank things in an interesting, slightly odd manner.
[Photo 16]
Kawashiri: (For this column) we’ve got to discuss something we’re troubled about with Syoya, right? I don’t really have anything I’m troubled by, though… We’ve got many things we’d like to do, and so we sacrifice our sleeping time (to do them), I guess. (laughs) We don’t sleep much, right…?
Kimata: We don’t (laughs).
Kawashiri: Hahah! Once I get hooked on something I’ll lose track of the time, and then my sleep time all goes down the drain. I guess that’s something I’m troubled by.
Kimata: The past two days, I overdid that a little bit, and it was pretty rough.
Kawashiri: Yeah, it was pretty rough. (laughs)
[Photo 17]
Kimata: The stuff I’m doing is just like, playing games, or drawing pictures on my tablet, and showing those off to others. But I still end up doing it until fairly late.
Kawashiri: You end up not caring about how late it gets, right. But I don’t really mind. We’ll sleep a ton once we’re dead, anyway. (laughs)
Kimata: I totally don’t care about the time, either. (laughs)
[Photo 18]
Kawashiri: I’m really just grateful for this time we have right now. We’re going to be in this position for only a limited time, and I want to use the limited time I have to its fullest. Of course, with insufficient sleep it’ll get tough on my body, but even when I have work the next day for which I absolutely need to have a good night’s sleep, I’ll end up staying up late anyway, and before I know it I end up not sleeping again.
Kimata: I mean, if you’re enjoying your life, then that’s a win in itself!
[Photo 19]
Kimata: There’s also times when I try to make myself sleep (earlier), but then I end up remembering many things about the stuff that happened during the day, and I end up not being able to fall asleep. If it was something for TV, I’d be like, “Ah, I should have said something like this back then”; I’ll think about all the different routes (I could have taken).
Kawashiri: For me, rather than things that have already happened, I’ll think about the future, like what I need to do in preparation for something I have coming up. Stuff like, I’ll need to get this done before then, otherwise I’m in trouble… stuff like that. Like for dance practice, or for filming for a variety show.
Kimata: I always feel frustrated by many things when we have variety work. Ren-kun, how about you?
Kawashiri: It’s difficult. It’s difficult, but recently I’ve noticed something.
Kimata: Eh, what is it?
[Photo 20]
Kawashiri: It’s that, in the end, variety shows are all about teamwork. For those who watch the show, rather than about whether someone fell flat with a joke, it’s more about whether the show as a whole was interesting. So even when I fall flat with a joke, I think a bit of the blame lies on everyone’s shoulders.
Kimata: That’s a good way of thinking about it. (laughs)
Kawashiri: Also, there’s one more trick to enjoying variety shows. In order to hype up the set, all of those professional comedians, and those big-name celebrities, all those amazing people have to be friendly to us the moment the cameras start rolling. Don’t you think that’s a real privilege?
Kimata: That’s great! (laughs)
[Photo 21]
Kawashiri: I mean, that’s really the way it is. When you think to yourself, “I’m so happy that they’re being friendly to me!”, then your mood really lifts too. Ever since I realised this, I’ve started looking forward to opportunities to appear on TV.
Kimata: That’s a really objective way of looking at it. I don’t think I could do that (laughs).
Kawashiri: You don’t need to say eccentric things! Syoya, you’re a really pure kid, after all.
Kimata: Thank you.
Kawashiri: So just say the things that you really think; I think that would be what’s expected of you!
[Photo 22]
Kawashiri: Speaking of work we’ve had aside from performing, we got to do a drama with Amazon Prime Video-san this year, and I thought that the approach Syoya and I took towards acting was pretty similar. I think we probably both put in a lot of work to perfectly become the role.
Kimata: That’s right. After the drama, it truly felt like there was another version of me that existed. When I did our performances or appeared on TV, a part of me would be like, “that’s not who I am right now”, as though a part of my role still stayed with me.
Kawashiri: Yeah, I get that.
[Photo 23]
Kimata: I think a part of it was also that I got a character whose shoes were easy to slip into.
Kawashiri: Syoya’s character was really, really good.
Kimata: I was so shy, I couldn’t watch anybody’s episodes. Especially not my own!
Kawashiri: Hahaha!
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